DANIEL 8:13 DAILY, ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION TO GIVE BOTH THE SANCTUARY AND THE HOST TO BE TRODDEN…
Updated: Dec 17, 2022
CHAPTER 13
In the discussion below we will find out more about the revelation of the continual rebellion. Persecution or treading underfoot the sanctuary and host of heaven and continual rejection of God’s messengers caused God to leave the apostate church. This apostasy was to be finally exposed to the heart or mind of men. God would vindicate his truth and make things right again in the minds of men concerning His government and Himself and would sanctify or cleanse the hearts of men so He could tabernacle or remain or dwell with them forever.
Daniel 8:13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Daniel-Chapter-8/
THEN I HEARD ONE SAINT SPEAKING, AND ANOTHER SAINT SAID UNTO THAT CERTAIN SAINT
In Daniel 8:13-14 we hear a conversation between two holy beings or saints. From the Strong’s Concordance, the Hebrew word translated “saint” is defined as sacred or holy.
SAINT H6918
קָדוֹשׁ qâdôwsh, kaw-doshe'; or קָדֹשׁ qâdôsh; from H6942; sacred (ceremonially or morally); (as noun) God (by eminence), an angel, a saint, a sanctuary:—holy (One), saint https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=H6918&t=KJV
In scripture God’s people were commanded to be saints or holy in the sense they were not to purposefully defile themselves or break God’s laws. This was a sign they were separated as God’s people. God sanctifies or makes His people holy by His saving power. They could not sanctify themselves. Keeping Sabbath is a sign that His people depend upon Him for their sanctification.
45 For I am the LORD that bringeth you up out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: ye shall therefore be holy, for I am holy. https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Leviticus-Chapter-11/
6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel. https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Exodus-Chapter-19/
Leviticus 20:7 Sanctify yourselves therefore, and be ye holy: for I am the LORD your God.
8 And ye shall keep my statutes, and do them: I am the LORD which sanctify you. … 25 Ye shall therefore put difference between clean beasts and unclean, and between unclean fowls and clean: and ye shall not make your souls abominable by beast, or by fowl, or by any manner of living thing that creepeth on the ground, which I have separated from you as unclean.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Leviticus-Chapter-20/
Exodus 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Exodus-Chapter-31/
3 Yea, he loved the people; all his saints are in thy hand: and they sat down at thy feet; every one shall receive of thy words. https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Deuteronomy-Chapter-33/
SPEAKING H1696
דָבַר dâbar, daw-bar'; a primitive root; perhaps properly, to arrange; but used figuratively (of words), to speak; rarely (in a destructive sense) to subdue:—answer, appoint, bid, command, commune, declare, destroy, give, name, promise, pronounce, rehearse, say, speak, be spokesman, subdue, talk, teach, tell, think, use (entreaties), utter, × well, × work. https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=H1696&t=KJV
THAT CERTAIN H6422
פַּלְמוֹנִי palmôwnîy, pal-mo-nee'; probably for H6423; a certain one, i.e. so-and-so:—certain. https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=H6422&t=KJV
HOW LONG SHALL BE THE VISION CONCERNING THE DAILY sacrifice, AND THE TRANSGRESSION OF DESOLATION, TO GIVE BOTH THE SANCTUARY AND THE HOST TO BE TRODDEN UNDER FOOT?
Daniel 8:13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Daniel-Chapter-8/
Notice, from the Strong’s Concordance below, that in the original Hebrew text the words “How long” are not there. In other words, without the word’s “how long”, the two saints can be said to be talking to each other regarding the following topics: the vision, the daily, and the transgression of desolation to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden underfoot.
Then I heard H8085 one H259 saint H6918 speaking, H1696 and another H259 saint H6918 said H559 unto that certain H6422saint which spake, H1696 How long shall be the vision H2377concerning the daily H8548 sacrifice, and the transgression H6588 of desolation, H8074 to give H5414 both the sanctuary H6944 and the host H6635 to be trodden under foot? H4823
https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/dan/8/1/ss1/s_858011
The word used for “vision” is H2377 or “chazown” is defined below. Here it is important to remember that the whole vision or “chazown” is a revelation. It is a revelation of four mighty powers including the Ram, the He-goat, the Four Winds of the Earth, and the Little Horn power. The word “chazown” is used and translated “vision” in the following verses in the book of Daniel:
Daniel 8:1,2,13,15,17,26
Daniel 9:21,24
Daniel 10:14
Daniel 11:14
חָזוֹן châzôwn, khaw-zone'; from H2372; a sight (mentally), i.e. a dream, revelation, or oracle:—vision.https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=H2377&t=KJV
The vision or “chazown” is in regard to the evil, continual rebellion that desolates or destroys or otherwise stated as the daily transgression of desolation.
Remember from our discussion on Daniel 8:11 the Hebrew word “daily” means continual, constant, perpetual.
DAILY H8548
תָּמִיד tâmîyd, taw-meed'; from an unused root meaning to stretch; properly, continuance (as indefinite extension); but used only (attributively as adjective) constant (or adverbially, constantly); elliptically the regular (daily) sacrifice:—alway(-s), continual (employment, -ly), daily, (n-)ever(-more), perpetual.https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=H8548&t=KJV
We have seen this word used twice before just preceding in Daniel 8:11-12.
Daniel 8:11 Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.
12 And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Daniel-Chapter-8/
We studied it out and found there is a daily or continual evil work on our minds, and on the church of God to misrepresent God, by the enemy who is empowered by Satan.
Psalms 74:3 Lift up thy feet unto the perpetual desolations; even all that the enemy hath done wickedly in the sanctuary..
10 O God, how long shall the adversary reproach? shall the enemy blaspheme thy name for ever?.
22 Arise, O God, plead thine own cause: remember how the foolish man reproacheth thee daily.
23 Forget not the voice of thine enemies: the tumult of those that rise up against thee increaseth continually.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Psalms-Chapter-74/
Genesis 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evilcontinually.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Genesis-Chapter-6/
Revelation 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Revelation-Chapter-12/
2 Corinthians 3:13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away. https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/2-Corinthians-Chapter-3/
Remaineth” in 2 Corinthians 3:14, in Greek New Testament is translated the same as “daily” in the Old Testament:
Remaineth=G3306
μένω ménō, men'-o; a primary verb; to stay (in a given place, state, relation or expectancy):—abide, continue, dwell, endure, be present, remain, stand, tarry (for), × thine own. https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=G3306&t=KJV
Scripture implies here that a vail is on the mind of the Jews regarding what Christ has done for them in taking away the ministration of death and condemnation required by the “broken law” of God. Note, not the “law of God” but the broken law. Satan is the author of breaking that law. He has blinded the human race so that we have broken it too. But God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Christ’s death more than sufficed to pay the penalty of a broken law. But by coming through the portals of the tomb He also gave us eternal life. God lovingly supplies His grace to bring us back to a restored relationship with Him. But Satan does not want us to know about the message of the gift of life. He has blinded the hearts of men regarding the immeasurable love of God. It is time that he (Satan) and his representatives on earth should be unveiled.
The Hebrew word translated “transgression” means revolt, rebellion, sin or trespass.
TRANSGRESSION H6588
פֶּשַׁע peshaʻ, peh'-shah; from H6586; a revolt (national, moral or religious):—rebellion, sin, transgression, trespass. https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=H6588&t=KJV
Exodus 34:5 And the LORD descended in the cloud, and stood with him there, and proclaimed the name of the LORD.
6 And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth,
7 Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Exodus-Chapter-34/
In the verses above we see that ultimately Christ’s very name or character is to remove or forgive transgression. But the enemy continues to blaspheme God’s name and covers this message up.
Psalms 74:3 Lift up thy feet unto the perpetual desolations; even all that the enemy hath done wickedly in the sanctuary..
10 O God, how long shall the adversary reproach? shall the enemy blaspheme thy name for ever?
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Psalms-Chapter-74/
The Hebrew word translated desolation means to devastate, stupefy, destroy, waste.
DESOLATION H8074
שָׁמֵם shâmêm, shaw-mame'; a primitive root; to stun (or intransitively, grow numb), i.e. devastate or (figuratively) stupefy (both usually in a passive sense):—make amazed, be astonied, (be an) astonish(-ment), (be, bring into, unto, lay, lie, make) desolate(-ion, places), be destitute, destroy (self), (lay, lie, make) waste, wonder. https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=H8074&t=KJV
Note: The words “transgression of desolation” is not exactly the SAME WORD AS “abomination of desolation” seen in Daniel 11:31 and Daniel 12:11 but the question we are going to focus on is not the word abomination or transgression but, what is it that makes desolate? Below, we see that the sanctuary is desolated when the wicked replace God’s signs with their own (such as His holy Sabbath- Exodus 31:13-17; Ezekiel 20:12); when they destroy the trees of God or His faithful men (Psalms 1:1-3; Isaiah 61:3; Psalms 92:12-14); when they break down God’s carved work (Ten Commandments written in stone by God or written on our hearts by the Holy Spirit – Exodus 31:18; Hebrews 8:10; 2 Corinthians 3:3); when they destroy the true sanctuary or temple of God ; when they destroy the prophets of God (those who know how long verse 9); when they go on blaspheming God’s name continually.
Psalms 74:3 Lift up thy feet unto the perpetual desolations; even all that the enemy hath done wickedly in the sanctuary.
4 Thine enemies roar in the midst of thy congregations; they set up their ensigns for signs.
5 A man was famous according as he had lifted up axes upon the thick trees.
6 But now they break down the carved work thereof at once with axes and hammers.
7 They have cast fire into thy sanctuary, they have defiled by casting down the dwelling place of thy name to the ground.
8 They said in their hearts, Let us destroy them together: they have burned up all the synagogues of God in the land.
9 We see not our signs: there is no more any prophet: neither is there among us any that knoweth how long.
10 O God, how long shall the adversary reproach? shall the enemy blaspheme thy name forever?
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Psalms-Chapter-74/
Lamentations 4:12 The kings of the earth, and all the inhabitants of the world, would not have believed that the adversary and the enemy should have entered into the gates of Jerusalem.
13 For the sins of her prophets, and the iniquities of her priests, that have shed the blood of the just in the midst of her,
14 They have wandered as blind men in the streets, they have polluted themselves with blood, so that men could not touch their garments.
15 They cried unto them, Depart ye; it is unclean; depart, depart, touch not: when they fled away and wandered, they said among the heathen, They shall no more sojourn there.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Lamentations-Chapter-4/
In Daniel 9 we see Daniel praying about the 70 years of Babylonian captivity calling it “seventy years in the desolations of Jerusalem.” In the Babylonian captivity we have an example in Jerusalem of what it means to be desolate. Moreover, we find that God is going to give the Jews seventy weeks or 490 days meaning 490 years of grace or forgiveness before he again leaves their temple desolate because they rejected His very Own Son. There was nothing more God could do. See the following verses to understand.
Daniel 9:2 In the first year of his reign I Daniel understood by books the number of the years, whereof the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah the prophet, that he would accomplish seventy years in the desolations of Jerusalem.
17 Now therefore, O our God, hear the prayer of thy servant, and his supplications, and cause thy face to shine upon thy sanctuary that is desolate, for the Lord's sake. 18 O my God, incline thine ear, and hear; open thine eyes, and behold our desolations, and the city which is called by thy name: for we do not present our supplications before thee for our righteousness, but for thy great mercies.
19 O Lord, hear; O Lord, forgive; O Lord, hearken and do; defer not, for thine own sake, O my God: for thy city and thy people are called by thy name.
20 And whiles I was speaking, and praying, and confessing my sin and the sin of my people Israel, and presenting my supplication before the LORD my God for the holy mountain of my God;
21 Yea, whiles I was speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, touched me about the time of the evening oblation.
22 And he informed me, and talked with me, and said, O Daniel, I am now come forth to give thee skill and understanding.
23 At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth, and I am come to shew thee; for thou art greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision.
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy….
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Daniel-Chapter-9/
In the following scriptures we see the Jews rejecting God’s messengers and then murdering them and finally ultimately rejecting the message of Christ and then the Person of Christ. This rejection of God’s messengers is the reason God leaves them or separates Himself from them, making them desolate, giving the kingdom to another nation, who is called a new holy priesthood of believers.
Matthew 23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-Chapter-23/
Matthew 21:33 Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country:
34 And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it.
35 And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.
36 Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise.
37 But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son.
38 But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance.
39 And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.
40 When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen?
41 They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.
42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
44 And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder. https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-Chapter-21/
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/1-Peter-Chapter-2/
Jesus wanted his disciples to understand the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel. From the following verses we can understand the environment surrounding the abomination of desolation.
1. The gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world. This is a world-wide event (Matthew 24:13-14).
2. God’s people would be persecuted in the name of Christ (Mark 13:13-14)
3. Jerusalem would be compassed with armies (Luke 21:20).
4. There would be intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant (Daniel 11:30-31)
Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Matthew-Chapter-24/
Mark 13:13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains: https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Mark-Chapter-13/
Luke 21:20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Luke-Chapter-21/
Daniel 11:30For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant.
31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Daniel-Chapter-11/
The abomination that makes desolate is the decision by church leaders to reject truth regarding the Covenant Law of God. By rejecting truth and persecuting God’s people they cause God to leave their soul temples as well as their corporate churches. Looking like friends of the church, they betray God just as Judas betrayed Christ by a kiss.
Daniel 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Daniel-Chapter-12/
Acts 1:16 Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus.
17 For he was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry.
18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.
19 And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood.
20 For it is written in the book of Psalms, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take. https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Acts-Chapter-1/
TO GIVE BOTH THE SANCTUARY AND THE HOST TO BE TRODDEN UNDER FOOT
Daniel 8:13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerningthe daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Daniel-Chapter-8/
We have formerly discussed the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot understanding them to be the church and the armies of God on earth and in heaven. Christ is ministering for us in the heavenly sanctuary as our High Priest. The Little Horn power or papacy tried to destroy our understanding of the intercession of Christ our true High Priest and to replace it with the intercession of mortal man.
But the prophecy of Daniel 8:13-14 also relates to time. Comparing scripture with scripture we can find the connecting links that tell us how long the “treading under foot” lasts. I have used Revelation 11:2 to get us started with our understanding of this. For your convenience, I have included other Bible texts which relate to each part of this passage in parenthesis so you can compare scripture with scripture to find this truth for yourself. To start, the key words from Daniel 8:13 are “to be trodden under foot.”
Daniel 8:13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Daniel-Chapter-8/
Revelation 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles (Romans 11:25, Luke 21:24, Daniel 8:13,10): and the holy city (Hebrews 12:22-24) shall they tread under foot forty and two months(Luke 21:24; Rev. 13:2-7; Dan. 7:25 time when power given to the beast or papacy).
The word “Gentiles” in Revelation 11:2 is a prophetic reference to those who are not Jews. Israel when mentioned as opposed to Gentiles refers to those who keep the Law of God versus do not keep the Law of God. The times of the Gentiles is permitted by God to give time for the revealing of the chief Gentile or the “man of sin (man of transgression or not keeping the Law of God).”
Revelation 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles (Romans 11:25, Luke 21:24, Daniel 8:13,10, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-6): and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Romans-Chapter-2/
Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Romans-Chapter-11/
Luke 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Luke-Chapter-21/
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/2-Thessalonians-Chapter-2/
The holy city spoken of in Revelation 11:2 is not earthly but rather the heavenly Jerusalem of Hebrews 12:22-24.
Revelation 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city (Hebrews 12:22-24) shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
Hebrews 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Hebrews-Chapter-12/
The “forty-two months” of Revelation 11:2 is also found in Revelation 13:5 and is equal to the “time and times and the dividing of time” in Daniel 7:25 and is also called the “times of the Gentiles” in Luke 21:24. I have quoted these prophecies below.
Revelation 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city (Hebrews 12:22-24) shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
Revelation 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Revelation-Chapter-13/
Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Daniel-Chapter-7/
Luke 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Luke-Chapter-21/
So we can see from the scriptures above that the 1260-day prophecies are a part of the prophecy of Daniel 8:13-14 though not stated as a time but instead referred to by the words “trodden underfoot” meaning persecution of God’s people.
Daniel 8:13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?
14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Daniel-Chapter-8/
Daniel 8:10 And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Daniel-Chapter-8/
Luke 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Luke-Chapter-21/
Revelation 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Revelation-Chapter-11/
A day in prophecy can be a symbol for a year. We see this throughout the Bible at various times. Jesus ministered for three and a half years but called them days.
Luke 13:31 The same day there came certain of the Pharisees, saying unto him, Get thee out, and depart hence: for Herod will kill thee.
32 And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures today and tomorrow, and the third day I shall be perfected.
33 Nevertheless I must walk today, and tomorrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem.
34 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not!
35 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Luke-Chapter-13/
Numbers 14:33 And your children shall wander in the wilderness forty years, and bear your whoredoms, until your carcases be wasted in the wilderness.
34 After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Numbers-Chapter-14/
Ezekiel 4:5 For I have laid upon thee the years of their iniquity, according to the number of the days, three hundred and ninety days: so shalt thou bear the iniquity of the house of Israel.
6 And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Ezekiel-Chapter-4/
The 1260-day prophecies of Daniel 7:25 and of Revelation 11:2 and Revelation 13:5 are of similar content and character, and being fulfilled already we see they were not fulfilled in a literal three and a half years, for the kingdoms they concern took a lot longer than that for them to play out. They happened over long periods of time as in a day for a year in prophecy. With the words “to be trodden underfoot” the prophecy of Daniel 8:13-14 shows the connection between the 1260-day (year) prophecies and the 2300-day (year) prophecy. This fact is another reason why the 2300-day prophecy of Daniel 8 refers to 2300 prophetic years.
Daniel 8:13 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?
14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Daniel-Chapter-8/
By 476 AD the Western Roman empire was in shreds, having disintegrated at the hands of the invading hordes that picked it apart one swath at a time until it was roughly divided into about ten major parts. Most of these tribes had been converted to Christianity through the efforts of the missionary Ulfilas. Ulfilas, while preaching the gospel to the Goths also preached to them a form of Christianity known as Arianism. Arianism didn’t accept that Jesus was Co-Eternal with the Father, teaching instead that he was begotten of God at some unknown point in eternity. This belief made them divergents of Catholicism and therefore they were looked upon as opponents. When the Arian Ostrogoths under Theodoric took over Rome in 493 AD they significantly limited the power of the Pope. But the Catholic Emperors of the Eastern Empire managed to help the Pope by eliminating three of the Arian tribes. The Emperor Zeno arranged a treaty with the Ostrogoths in 487 AD which led to the eradication of the Heruli in 493 AD. Later Justinian destroyed the Vandals in 534 AD and crippled the power of the Ostrogoths in 538 AD thereby eliminating all the powers that had limited the power and influence of the Pope.
https://lineagejourney.com/read/the-roman-empire-from-313-538-ad
Clovis, King of the Franks was pivotal in converting the remaining tribes to Catholicism. He was pagan to begin with but married the Catholic Clotilda whose influence and other factors helped his conversion in 496 AD. Clovis went on to conquer almost all the other Germanic tribes and as he did so he carried Catholicism with him, thus leaving a string of converts in his wake. And so in signature style, the Roman church by force of arms either proselytize or disposed of her opponents and spread her influence over the face of the continent. When the Ostrogoths fell at the hands of Justinian in 538 AD all remaining opposition to Roman Catholic supremacy had vanished and the church rose triumphant, sitting enthroned upon the ashes of Imperial Rome.
It was an interesting turn of events; whereas Imperial Rome had disintegrated and fallen apart there arose from its ashes another, more powerful unifying factor than imperialism, that of Roman Catholicism. For though the nations of Western Rome were diverse they were all drawn together with a single unifying thread, their religious allegiance to the Pope at Rome. By 1000 AD the Roman Catholic church was the only church in Christendom and the single most powerful religious influence in the then known world, acting as a stabilizing bulwark in European life through the prosperous years of the high middle ages.
https://lineagejourney.com/read/the-roman-empire-from-313-538-ad
Byzantine Emperor Justinian had full church state authority in 538 BC when:
Siege of Rome, (537–538). The desire of Emperor Justinian to restore the full extent of the Roman Empire led to a struggle for control of Italy between his Byzantine army, led by Belisarius, and the kingdom of the Ostrogoths. Belisarius liberated Rome from the Goths, but then had a hard fight to hold the city.
Belisarius began his campaign to reconquer Italy with victory in Sicily. He then crossed into Italy at Rhegium and lay siege to Naples. In the autumn of 537, he took Naples and marched on Rome. To the Ostrogoths, it was obvious that the populace favored Belisarius, so they left as Belisarius triumphantly entered the ancient capital.
Belisarius had a defensive ditch dug outside the walls and prepared the city for siege. The Ostrogoths built seven camps around the city and destroyed aqueducts that supplied fresh water. On the eighteenth day, they attacked with siege towers but were pushed back. Belisarius decided to dig in and sent for reinforcements, occasionally launching small sorties to wear down the morale of the Goths. Finally, after many weeks of attrition, Roman reinforcements arrived. The Ostrogoths were suffering from plague and famine as much as the Romans and sought a truce, offering parts of southern Italy in return for Rome. However, realizing that the tide was turning in his favor, Belisarius waited as the condition of the Ostrogoths deteriorated still more. In desperation, the Goths attempted to storm the city, but they were defeated.
In the meantime a Roman army under the command of John won several victories, effectively cutting the Goths off. After almost 400 days, the Goths abandoned the siege in order to defend their capital of Ravenna. As they withdrew, Belisarius pursued them and routed them at the Milvian Bridge outside Rome.
Losses: Unknown.
https://www.britannica.com/event/Siege-of-Rome
In the sixth century the papacy became more firmly established with its seat of power in Rome. The emperor conferred privilege to the bishop of Rome to be the head over the entire church. In this way, The dragon had gave to the beast “his power, and his seat, and great authority.” Revelation 13:2. This began the 1260 years of papal oppression which prophets foretold in the books of Daniel and the Revelation. Christians were forced to choose either to yield their faith in Christ and to accept the papal methods of worship, or to wear away their lives in prisons or suffer death. Now were fulfilled the words of Jesus: “Ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death. And ye shall be hated of all men for My name’s sake.” Luke 21:16, 17. During this time of persecution the church of Christ found refuge in the hidden places of the earth fulfilling the prophecy “The woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and three-score days.” Revelation 12:6
Twelve hundred and sixty years later, the papacy lost state power when:
Pius was on good terms with the allies against France in 1793 and felt that he could rely on them, but in 1796 his territory was invaded after the last Austrian defeat by Napoleon, who forced the pope to sign a peace treaty at Tolentino on February 19, 1797. A riot in Rome in the following December led to French occupation of that city on February 15, 1798, and the proclamation of a republic by a group of Italian patriots. Aged and frail, he was seized by the French in March 1799 and died a prisoner in France the following August.
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Pius-VI
In 1798, French troops entered Rome and imprisoned Pope Pius VI. His imprisonment effectively abolished Pius’s temporal power which the popes preceding him had held since the 8th century. This event is recorded on the Bible Timeline Online with World History during that time.
In 1796, Napoleon led his army into Turin after defeating the army of Piedmont. King Victor Amadeus III of Sardinia (also Duke of Savoy) was forced to sue for peace. He was later compelled to cede Savoy and Nice to France. The French army under Napoleon managed to defeat the Italian troops (including the pope’s own troops) to occupy Milan, Ancona, and Loreto. The invaders were besieging the duchy of Mantua when the Pope Pius VI, as well as the dukes of Modena and Parma, sued for peace. Napoleon soon brought the papal territory of Bologna and Ferrara into French domination. By 1797, Napoleon had subdued Mantua. Members of the First Coalition soon sued for peace, and on the 17th of October 1797, the representatives of France and the First Coalition signed the Treaty of Campo Formio.
The peace of Campo Formio, however, did not last long. The Directory was eager to get rid of the pope and transform the Papal States into a republic, but its members first needed a compelling reason to do so. A pretext presented itself when a riot broke out in Rome in December 1797, killing brigadier-general Leonard Duphot in the process.
General Louis Berthier and his troops were tasked by the Directory to invade Rome on February 10, 1798, and declare the creation of a new Roman Republic. He announced the deposition of Pope Pius VI and demanded that the pope renounce his temporal power. When the pope refused, General Berthier took him prisoner and escorted him from the Vatican to Siena. He was later taken to Certosa, but the French army relocated him to Valence in Drôme when a war in Tuscany became imminent. He died in Valence on August 29, 1799.
https://amazingbibletimeline.com/blog/france-abolished-the-temporal-power-of-the-pope-1798/
In 1798, 1260 years after starting to practice church/state authority, the papal Rome became just a church without power to tax, or punish and persecute those who disagreed with her by seizing property or by condemnation.
CHAPTER SUMMARY
In Daniel 8:13-14 we hear a conversation between two holy beings or saints.
In the original Hebrew text, the words “How long” are not there. In other words, without the word’s “how long”, the two saints can be said to be talking to each other regarding the following topics: the vision, the daily, and the transgression of desolation to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden underfoot.
The Hebrew word translated “vision” in Daniel 8:13 is “chazown” meaning a revelation.
The Hebrew word “daily” means continual, constant, perpetual.
The Hebrew word translated “transgression” means revolt, rebellion, sin or trespass.
The Hebrew word translated “desolation” means to devastate, stupefy, destroy, waste.
We found that the revealing of the continual transgressions that caused desolations happened when the wicked who pretended to be God’s people, replaced God’s signs with their own (such as His holy Sabbath- Ezekiel 20:12); when they destroyed the trees of God or His faithful men (Psalms 1:3); when they destroyed the true sanctuary or temple or worship of God; when they destroyed the prophets of God; when blasphemed God’s name continually. A couple Bible examples of this kind of desolation happened were found in the seventy years of desolations while Israel was in Babylonian captivity and ultimately when Christ was rejected by the Jewish nation and forever left their temple desolate of His presence.
Jesus in Matthew 24:15 wanted his disciples and us to understand the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel. From verses in the book of Daniel we can understand the environment surrounding the abomination of desolation to be:
1. The gospel of the kingdom would be preached in all the world. This is a world-wide event.
2. God’s people would be persecuted in the name of Christ.
3. Jerusalem (the church of God) would be compassed with armies.
4. There would be intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant.
In our studies of the Little Horn power we have found that the papacy fulfilled all these abominations.
In the prophecy of Daniel 8:13, the abomination that makes desolate is the decision by church leaders to reject truth. By rejecting truth and persecuting God’s people churches cause God to leave their soul temples as well as their corporate churches. Looking like friends of the church, they betray God just as Judas, a disciple of Christ, betrayed Christ by a kiss.
We have formerly discussed the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot understanding them to be the church and the armies of God on earth and in heaven. Christ is ministering for us in the heavenly sanctuary as our High Priest. The Little Horn power or papacy tried to destroy our understanding of the intercession of Christ our true High Priest and to replace it with the intercession of mortal man.
The prophecy of Daniel 8:13-14 has a hint relating to the 1260-year prophecies concerning how long the papacy would have power. This hint unites the prophecy of Daniel 8 to the 1260-year prophecies in scriptures in the words, “to be trodden underfoot”. The man of sin by doing his work of transgression and trampling underfoot the church of God for 1260 years would be revealed to the world.
A day in prophecy can be a symbol for a year. We see this throughout the Bible at various times. Jesus ministered for three and a half years but called them days.
The 1260-day prophecies of Daniel 7:25 and of Revelation 11:2 and Revelation 13:5 are of similar content and character as that of Daniel 8:13, and being fulfilled already we see they were not fulfilled in a literal three and a half years, for the kingdoms they concerned took a lot longer than that for them to play out. They happened over long periods of time as in a day for a year in prophecy. With the words “to be trodden underfoot” the prophecy of Daniel 8:13-14 shows the connection between the 1260-day (year) prophecies and the 2300-day (year) prophecy. This fact is another supporting reason why the 2300-day prophecy of Daniel 8 refers to 2300 prophetic years instead of days.
History tells us that the Byzantine Roman Emperor Justinian had full church state authority in 538 BC when he conquered the Ostragoths and took possession of Rome.
Then history tells us that in 1798, 1260 years after starting to practice church/state authority, the papacy lost its state power when the pope was taken captive by the French General Berthier. At this time the papacy became a church without state power to tax, or punish and persecute those who disagreed with her by seizing property or by condemnation. Papal Rome fell and Rome became a republic.